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S-trig and v-trig connections

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:30 pm
by daeldred
I have looked at the help files and cannot find the differences and application of the s-trig and v-trig connections. (specifically SYS78 and Adroit products) Thank you

Re: S-trig and v-trig connections

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:05 pm
by ColinP
Hi,

By Adroit s-trig connections I presume you mean Adroit S-Poly connections.

These are explained in some depth here...

https://www.adroitsynthesis.com/s-poly-connections/

Re: S-trig and v-trig connections

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:26 pm
by daeldred
Thank you for the information on the Adroit S-Poly modules. Is there additional info about the SYS78 (by Nrgzr78) series of modules??

Re: S-trig and v-trig connections

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:45 am
by utdgrant
If you want to know everything about gates and triggers, I can't think of a better description than this article by Gordon Reid.

"V-Trig" means "voltage-trigger" and "S-Trig" means "switch-trigger". I've also heard of "S-Trig" being described as "Short-Trigger", as the switch would short-circuit a voltage to ground potential.

Basically, it refers to the means of triggering an envelope generator in hardware:

A V-Trig envelope requires a positive voltage at its input to determine the gate 'ON' time.

An S-Trig envelope requires a normally-open switch (infinite resistance) at its input to close (zero resistance), to determine the gate 'ON' time.

S-Trig is less common in the hardware world, with Moog as the most famous user of the standard. This could be a historical 'accident' based on Bob Moog's early development of an ADSR envelope generator; he asked Herb Deutsch to go and buy a doorbell push button to use as the trigger!

There is no concept of electrical resistance (or a switch) inside the Voltage Modular world - EVERYTHING IS A VOLTAGE.
Therefore, whenever you see a socket labelled "S-Trig" within VM, it is always for historical cosmetic reasons.

For example, the 921 Oscillator in the VM900 Collection has both S-Trig and V-Trig inputs to the clamping point trigger. Either can be used as a V-Trig input, though the V-Trig responds to positive-going voltages, while S-Trig responds to negative-going voltages.