Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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SA2K
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Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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Can someone confirm if the Nord Modulars classic OscA and OscB modules have an equivelent available in Voltage Modular that I can experiment with to quantize and do dub echoes with on like in these various demonstrations here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxntfF ... =Dave33543

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PpKAMA ... =Dave33543

I listened to a bunch of the Dave33543 Nord Modular G2 dub techno demos and originally thought they used a spectral oscillator by mistake. They're great demo's. Does anyone think similar songs to Dave's YouTube one's could be achieved in Voltage Modular like his G2 one's?
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Re: Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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The G2's OscA is basic. Six standard waveforms, two pitch inputs, and tuning. Doesn't even have PWM. Even Cherry's stock VCO covers more ground, so you could use it and get all the functions of OscA. As for sound quality, that's for you to decide. Having worked with the G1 and G2 for years, my perception of their oscillators is 'thin'. Cherry's is a bigger sound.
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OscB is more interesting. It has Sync (a great way to get biting timbres), FM input, and a Shape control that's used for PWM but also for DualSaw phase control.

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Except for the DualSaw function, once again Cherry's own stock Oscillator covers the same territory as OscB.

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Re: Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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huggermugger wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:37 pm The G2's OscA is basic. Six standard waveforms, two pitch inputs, and tuning. Doesn't even have PWM. Even Cherry's stock VCO covers more ground, so you could use it and get all the functions of the OscB. As for sound quality, that's for you to decide. Having worked with the G1 and G2 for years, my perception of their oscillators is 'thin'. Cherry's is a bigger sound.

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OscB is more interesting. It has Sync (a great way to get biting timbres), FM input, and a Shape control which is used for PWM but also for DualSaw phase control.


osc b.png


Except for the DualSaw function, once again Cherry's own stock Oscillator covers the same territory as OscB.


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But then the question is can the oscillator match those sweet dub/dub techno YouTube demo's. I will have to give it an attempt some time but I might go left field on it. Can anyone out there produce something as wild as the two demo's? I know that Cherry Audio Voltage Modular is just as sophisticated as the Clavia Nord Modular G2 but man those videos are top notch and noone has shared demo's or patches as hip as them as of yet. He uses really great dub chords through dub delay. How could one achieve dub delay like his in VM? On the videos he shows a somewhat blurry image of the Nord Modular G2 patches he used that utilize both the main and extended Nord memory.
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Re: Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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The oscillators he's using don't have much to do with the final sound. He's running a blend of several simple oscillators into a BPF and a Phase filter.
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huggermugger wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:35 pm The oscillators he's using don't have much to do with the final sound. He's running a blend of several simple oscillators into a BPF and a Phase filter.
Neat. So I can try quantizing a few separate standard VM oscillator modules with the right waveforms and then put them through band pass filters & phasing and sequence them and put it all through something some sort of suitable dub type delay like the cosmic space delay or whatever it's called or one of the PSP Delay's or a Waverly Delay of some sort. I'll give it a try I just need to examine the guys YouTube videos more to see which waveforms he selected in his chords.
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Re: Similar to the Classic Nord Modular G2 oscillators in VM?

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From what I can see there's nothing particularly magical about the modules or waveforms in those patches so you ought to be able to create something silmilar using just the stock VM modules.

However, it would take a lot of effort, experimentation and some genre specific knowledge to create music that is so polished.

It's just my opinion but rather than trying to focus on a particular genre I've found it more rewarding to walk down my own path. Not a random path but one that explores the possibilities that arise rather than trying to reach a predetermined goal.

For instance just looking at something like delay. Rather than hunt for a magic delay module you can do all kinds of things using the stock delay modules even though they are pretty crude. For instance building a patch with multiple delay modules, filters, VCAs, distortion, phasers and mixers and playing with feedback and stereo imaging. Then have tempo synced sequencers controlling the VCA gains, filter cutoffs and resonance.

It's possible to spend days exploring something like this and once in a while one will discover something fantastic that is completely original. And along the way one's reportoire expands.
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