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Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:05 am
by Jean d'Oran
Good evening, everybody !
I'm putting my post here, because that's where it seems most appropriate:

I had a dream: I was controlling a Voltage Modular patch with a graphics tablet:
  • the pitch on the X axis,
  • the filter opening on the y axis
  • and the depth of an LFO's effect with pressure.
Do you think it would be easy to declare a graphics tablet as a CV controller? It's actually an inverted mouse, but I don't know how to declare a mouse, or even a joystick, as a controller.

I think it was the Space Controller from @ChR_is who sparked the idea, since its module is an inverted mouse!

Thanks in advance !

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:20 pm
by Steve W
Years ago I used third-party software with a Wacom Tablet from the Windows 98 SE / Windows XP era. The software allowed users to load an image (photograph, drawing, etc.) in the virtual tablet. The color/hue/luminance underneath the pencil/stylus could be mapped to all sorts of parameters using MIDI. I don't see why someone couldn't do something like that with a VM module that outputs to CV.

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:12 pm
by Jean d'Oran
Thanks for your answer, Steve !
Incidentally, do you remember how you taught the tablet to speak in midi language ?

Regards

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:12 am
by Steve W
Jean d'Oran wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:12 pm Thanks for your answer, Steve !
Incidentally, do you remember how you taught the tablet to speak in midi language ?
I didn't teach it to speak midi. The software developer did that. I went on line the other night to see if it was still available, but couldn't find it. If it was still available I would have posted a link.

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:51 pm
by Jean d'Oran
Thanks for trying, Steve. I'm gonna search, and I'll inform the community if find something. As they say : stay tuned ! :?

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:26 am
by Steve W
The program I used with the wacom tablet was called wmidi and it was created by Nicolas Fournel. I cannot find his site any more. When I searched, the web took me to a site for Viagra. He used to have a very informative site.

A windows application wmidi 1.3 can be found at https://download.cnet.com/wmidi/3001-21 ... 82667.html. I scanned it with MalwareBytes which didn't report any malware, but it doesn't run on Windows 10.

The manual should give you a good idea how it worked. The screenshot at the beginning shows how we could assign parameters to CCs. It was lots of fun!!!

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:55 pm
by martb
There was tablet2midi, which was perfect for this, as the name implies:

http://www.livelab.dk/tablet2midi.php

However, the demo download link no longer works. You can still get it via the waybackmachine site with a bit of digging around. The demo version is functioning but with some limitations.

Alternatively, the modular app Plogue Bidule has a 'HID data extractor' module which includes a 'Wacom Virtual Hid driver':

https://www.plogue.com/products/bidule.html

Nichola Fournel still has a site here:

http://www.nicolasfournel.com/

There is a link to download wmidi but as Steve W said, it doesn't work with win10.

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:17 am
by Steve W
martb wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:55 pm Nichola Fournel still has a site here:
http://www.nicolasfournel.com/
There is a link to download wmidi but as Steve W said, it doesn't work with win10.
Thanks for the link for some reason, Google gives me the correct link, but takes me to a page that pretends to sell viagra and other drugs. But when I copy the link address, I get the legitimate page at his site for WMIDI. http://www.nicolasfournel.com/?page_id=73

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:48 pm
by Steve W
This is totally beyond me abilities, but I did look up Wacom Tablet API and found this overview page as part of the documentation: https://developer-docs.wacom.com/docs/s ... api-guide/ . Not sure if the tablet parameters can be pulled using the API and be used by a VM Module, but I thought I'd pass this along in case any one is interested in looking (more than just using the X, Y coordinates).

Re: Feature Request: Ribbon Control/Mapping Options

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:22 pm
by Steve W
People keep talking about an "inverted mouse." What does that mean?

When I used my tablet, moving the pen/stylus up also moved the cursor up and vice versa just like a mouse. I can't imagine moving the pen up would correlate with moving the mouse down.